Saturday, 22 July 2017

Paul Williams Discusses Human Sacrifice and Forgiveness of Sins at Speakers Corner

Hamza Myatt and Lizzie Schofield on Violence in Bible - Unbelievable and Pfander Films Take Note

Hamza Myatt Preaching and Teaching Islam at Speakers Corner

Actions that lead to Apostacy - Islamqa - Shaykh ibn Baz

Muslim Complains About BBC The Big Questions - Nicky Campbell

Muslim to Head DCCI Ministries?

DCCI Ministries' Lizzie Schofield Asks Why People Call her a Bigot

1 Samuel 15:3: Lizzie Speakers Corner (Paul and Lizzie Schofield)

Christian Missionaries and Pakistan's Valentines Day Ban

Hashim Corrects Lizzie Schofield of Pfander Films Website

Christians having dreams and converting to Islam

Response to Christian Missionary Rhetoric on Saudi Arabia Apostasy Laws

Real quick, I literally have a train to catch this morning.

Lizzie of DCCI Ministries is writing about apostasy and Islam. I skimmed through her latest blog and it was ominously a “part 1”. Really hate multi-part blogs. Get all done and dusted in one go!

Anyways, I didn’t read it all. It was basically about some Saudi Arabian guy who has been sentenced to death for apostasy…in Saudi Arabia.

Who cares, we are in the West. Everybody reading Liz’s blog will be from the West. Saudis have the right to self-autonomy. If a bunch of them get together and agree upon a rule for the collective is it really a big problem?

After all, John Calvin’s Geneva had something similar in place, right? He was up for killing those deemed heretics. That was a Christian state.

There was another nation which insisted on the death penalty for apostates too — Israel.

Now, somebody (a Westernised non-thinking Christian) can get all up in arms and yell but that has nothing to do with Jesus or Christianity. Mate, the Trinitarians believe Jesus gave the rules in the Old Testament concerning apostates.

In fact the Saudis are being less violent than what Christians believe Jesus ordered. Trinitarian Christians believe Jesus (as the second person of their triune Godhead doctrine) ordered the killing and destruction of whole towns if some people amongst them called to the worship of other gods:

12“When you begin living in the towns the LORD your God is giving you, you may hear 13that scoundrels among you are leading their fellow citizens astray by saying, ‘Let us go worship other gods’ — gods you have not known before. 14In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find that the report is true and such a detestable act has been committed among you, 15you must attack that town and completely destroyb all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. 16Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the open square and burn it. Burn the entire town as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. 17Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a large nation, just as he swore to your ancestors. [Deut 13]

Lizzie winds up doing propaganda, Jay Smith type of propaganda, which is not fair. She conflates the killing of somebody in Germany, allegedly for apostasy, with Islamic apostasy laws.

Apostasy is a serious crime investigated by the state — it’s not a vigilante rule. There’s no Islamic state here so that law cannot be enacted. Listen to Dr Yasir Qadhi on this.

Lizzie Schofield also seems to be culturally unaware too. Recently, I heard Will Storr drawing a dichotomy between Eastern and Western mindsets with relation to the community and the individual. For us in the West an apostasy law contradicts that personal, individual freedom that our lives are centred around. But for the Easterner it’s not the same — the group is central. The research experiment he spoke about was quite interesting. They recorded the reaction (eye movements) of Westerners and Easterners to a fish tank. The Westerners foccussed primarily on an unusual fish and were fascinated by that individual fish while the Easterners were looking around in the whole of the tank at other fish more.

This would partly explain why we see more restrictive sets of laws in the Eastern countries with their respective Easterners generally in favour of laws which would contravene typical rights of the self in the West. China for example.

Look I’ve got to get a wash and jump on that train. In summary:

1. She conflated an alleged apostasy killing in Germany (a vigilante killing which is not allowed in Islam) with what the Saudi state does. There’s a big difference.

2. Theocracies of the past have had apostasy for theological divergence. We mentioned Christian Geneva and Jewish Israel, both basing their laws on the Bible, the book Lizzie believes to be from Jesus…

3. Lizzie is being more than a tad inconsistent. She believes Jesus allowed the killing of apostates in the Bible. She also believes Jesus will come back with a SWORD to terrorise and kill Muslims.
So that Saudi man on death row for apostasy really doesn’t matter in Lizzie’s mind because in her mind, if Jesus came back tomorrow Jesus would kill him…and all the Saudis…and me!

Another example of inconsistency below. Off to catch that train!

Notes from Sean Finnegan's interview with Patrick Navas: Is the Trinity Biblical

Muslim to Head DCCI Ministries?

Dear Hatun Tash

I am writing to apply to join DCCI Ministries. I have a ton of great ideas to move this new project forward in the right direction through my marketing, and multi-media abilities.

Look dear, let’s cut to the chase, your organisation needs me!

Firstly what we need to do is tweak the name of the organisation: Defend Christ Critique Islam. It sounds Jay Smithy. Almost like he named it for you. So, out goes foreign interference in our company. We’ll name our own companies, thank you very much Jay!

We need to stick with the “Defend Christ” bit. I like that bit.

As you know, there are a number of people (mainly folks with American accents) accusing Jesus of allowing the severe beating of female slaves (Ex 21:20–21), allowing the burning of priest’s daughters (Lev 21:9), ordering the killing of women and children (1 Samuel 15:3), he allowed abortion, Jesus will kill all Muslims on his return, etc..

These people are large in number, quite vocal and they carry a book called the Bible with them which they interpret through a later church doctrine called the Trinity.

Clearly Jesus Christ needs defending against their claims. I don’t believe any of those strange claims about Jesus above, do you? I can’t wait to get working for DCCI Mnistries…rolls up sleeves!

We’ve got to tweak this “Critique Islam” business.

Lizzie Schofield and yourself are reeling from that stint where Jay Smith had both of you badger some Muslims in a park and look rude, ignorant and embarrassing.

Let’s change it to “Critique Islamophobes”. We can do similar to what Rebel Media does with that…erm… Islamophobe Tommy Robinson. I’ll send both of you out to shove a camera and mic in the face of a different Islamophobe in Britain each week. Harass him/her and get all the tough questions in. We can do the same for people who believe things like Jesus allowed the severe beating of female slaves too (warning you may have to be adept at getting past church security). We’ll post the footage online each week.

Look at that, my first 30 mins on the job and I’ve revolutionised the organisation from the ground up. It’s amazing what a savvy person can do for any organisation (definitely beats the old stale stuff that was being trotted out by the brains at Pfander Ministries, go on ladies feel free to have a chuckle at your former bosses…I won’t call you disgruntled ex-employees..promise!)

I’ll do all the blogging too. I’m super keen, aren’t I? What was that Hatun? What, Lizzie is doing the blogging? Nay worries, let her work on something else. I’ve got another idea (Ahh this new guy is boss, ain’t he full of smashing ideas and enthusiasm?). What we’ll do is have two wings to the organisation.

If we truly want to professionally Defend Christ and Critique Islamophobes at DCCI Ministries we need some paper. No, Hatun, not the newspaper (was that the Sun you just pulled out? Smh.). We need some cash. Green. Funds. Dollars. Pounds. You know, the stuff Jay Smith was rolling in!

We’ll run another wing of DCCI Ministries. This wing will stand for Delicious Cup Cakes International (DCCI). I’m confident Lizzie is a dab hand at baking. Bet she loves being in the kitchen. Let her bake a load of cupcakes each week and we’ll sell them to raise funds for the main project. Between you and I, she isn’t the best writer working for DCCI Ministries. It’s me. She writes like VI Lenin. You ever read some of his work? Probably not eh? There’s no change of pace, it’s turgid, it’s me draw it out for you…think about reading a transcription of a Jonathan McLatchie talk. You get the picture. Zzzzzzz.

PS Thanks for the job. We can discuss pay later. Just so you know, I’m not willing to get paid in rice crackers.

PPS Your first gig for DCCI Ministries is to target an old Islamophobe operating at Speakers Corner in Hyde Park this Sunday. He’s called Jay Smith, you’ll see him on a ladder yelling about Muslims and Islam from 15:00. I think you may scare him off into retirement when you turn up to grill him!

PPPS Can I have your head sizes? I’m thinking of getting a sponsorship deal in. A hijab company may be willing to sponsor you. Can you imagine that, the pair of you wearing hijabs whilst tracking down Islamophobes and giving them what for every week? 1sec, Hatun I just got a new email. It’s only Nike, they want to sponsor you with Nike Sports Hijabs!

Jay Smith’s Pfander Films Asked to Condemn Death Threat to Muslim Apologist

Justin Brierley, do you Believe Jay Smith’s “Hyperbole” Excuse?

1 Samuel 15:3: Lizzie Speakers Corner (Paul and Lizzie Schofield)

Christian Missionaries and Pakistan's Valentines Day Ban

Hashim Corrects Lizzie Schofield of Pfander Films Website

Christian Asks About Child Killing in the Bible - Lizzie Schofield of Pfander Blog and YouTube


Thursday, 20 July 2017

DCCI Ministries' Lizzie Schofield Asks Why People Call her a Bigot

This video has also been uploaded here

In this video DCCI Ministries' Elizabeth Schofield makes bigoted comments about Muslims after asking why people on the internet call her a "bigot". I hope Hatun Tash and Lizzie will think about how they come across.

1 Samuel 15:3: Lizzie Speakers Corner (Paul and Lizzie Schofield)

Christian Missionaries and Pakistan's Valentines Day Ban

Hashim Corrects Lizzie Schofield of Pfander Films Website

Christian Asks About Child Killing in the Bible - Lizzie Schofield of Pfander Blog and YouTube

A Reputation for Rudeness Is Difficult to Shake Off, Ask Pfander...

Jay Smith's Pfander Films Asked to Condemn Death Threat to Muslim Apologist

Hamza Myatt and Lizzie Schofield on Violence in Bible - Unbelievable and Pfander Films Take Note

Are Jay Smith and Beth Grove of Pfander Centre Radicalising People to Hate Muslims?

Adnan Rashid Racist Abuse Condemned - Jay Smith's Pfander Films' Radicalised Viewers

Jay Smith's Student Lizzie Schofield Believes Jesus Mistreats Women in Deut 21:10-14

Tovia Singer: Does the New Testament Teach Jesus is God?

Why Islam

Christian Priorities: Attack Islam and Muslims Or Solve Their Sex Problem?

I am going to be frank with you, you'll be hard pressed to find Christians dedicated to trying to reduce this problem. You'll easily find Christians investing time, energy and money in attacking Muslims and Islam on and offline. Priorities?

Saudi Arabia, India and Indonesia (all countries which have been in English language press for opposition to Valentines Day) are amongst those that have the lowest rates of children born out of wedlock (1% or less).

Now compare that to the Britain where it was reported in 2013 that over 50% of all babies will be born out of wedlock in less than 5 years time. That’s the “Christian” country of Britain.

The countries with the highest rates of children born out of wedlock are historically and culturally Christian countries:

The highest rates of non-marital childbearing occur in Latin America (55–74 percent). The only other countries to share these high rates are South Africa (59 percent) and Sweden (55 percent). The range within Europe is huge: from 18 percent (Italy) to 55 percent (Sweden). Those in North America and Oceania are also high and rising, though New Zealand (47 percent) and the United States (41 percent) stand out, with more than four out of ten births outside of marriage in these two countries.

Notice which countries have the highest rates of children born out wedlock? “CHRISTIAN” countries!


Brannon Howse of Worldview Weekend Under Pressure From Muslims and Christians - Unable to Defend Robert Spencer and Usama Dakdok Relationships

Brannon Howse is under pressure from Christians. He's had many Christians on social rebuke him and dismiss his right-wing in-your-face political Christianity. It's up to the Muslims to reach out to people like Brannon Howse and help talk them away from political Christianity. I'm glad there are Christians like this lady emailing Muslims and letting us know that they find the right-wing, anti-Muslim political Christianity people like Usama Dakdok and Brannon Howse propagate problematic.

Before I share what a Christian lady sent me about Brannon Howse I want to take this moment to address Brannon's response to my highlighting of the clouds of distrust around Usama Dakdok on the internet and Christian concerns about promoting Robert Spencer. Brannon failed to address either of the issues. He wrote on social media:

This U.K. Muslim is attacking Usama Dakdok in this article. Usama's daddy started churches all over Egypt and his family was persecuted and his brother kidnapped and beaten for three days by Muslim Brotherhood as a hostage. They wanted the Blind Sheik to be released so they kidnapped Christians college students that included Usama's brother. Of course this self described muslim apologist in the U.K. is trashing on Usama and me and Spencer. I have known Usama for years and he is the real deal. As for Robert Spencer; he is an expert on Islam and a real gentleman.

Concerning Robert Spencer, his knowledge, or lack of knowledge about Islam, has nothing to do with what Theodore Shoebat highlighted as Spencer criticising conservative Christians for having traditional stances against homosexuality. Brannon Howse needs to focus on whether he is promoting pro-homosexual advocates by inviting Robert Spencer on his show. I suspect Theodore Shoebat would say he is. Tackle the issue Brannon, the conservative Christians in your audience would want you to ask Robert Spencer about his alleged Catholicism and his views on homosexual marriage and homosexuality in general with regard to religion. Spencer is also on record saying Islam leads Muslims to lead fine and moral lives, do Usama, Brannon and Worldview Weekend's audience agree with the "expert" on Islam here? Labelling him a gentleman and expert does not answer the issues raised in my post, Brannon. You know this.

It's likewise for the criticism of Usama Dakdok. Firstly, Dakdok could be making all that up concerning Egypt (he doesn't seem to be have a high regard for truth and accuracy) . And even if he was not making that up about his "daddy" it has nothing to do with Usama Dakdok and the clouds of doubt and dishonesty hanging over him. Brannon says he's known him for years, so what? It's immaterial to the criticism of Dakdok. Again, address the issues raised about Usama Dakdok rather than skirt around them.

Let's see what a Christian lady had to say about Brannon Howse via email communication to me.

Here's her first email to me

I am a Christian but appalled at Howse. He’s constantly going on about how all Muslims are deceiving us. Ok, even if I allow that so what? How does that change how we are to behave toward Muslims? It doesn’t.

After claiming you are all lying to us, then he goes ahead and posts your articles as proof that James White is a dupe being used by Muslims because you are supporting White. Has he not applied his own rubric to your posts? To him you can’t possibly be telling the truth because you’re a Muslim! I guess this just shows that his standard of truth is himself.
It makes no sense at all.
Anyway, thank you for trying. I enjoyed the Qadhi discussions with White and hope to hear more of them. Even if he was lying. ;-

[Note, I suspect she is joking about Yasir Qadhi lying...mocking the right wing Christian bigots who attacked YQ and JW after the event]

My response:
Thanks [her name is censored]

And I appreciate your sense of humour. I think Howse is politically charged and is playing up to a narrow spectrum of American evangelicals. As a Brit, it is difficult to understand the way nationalism and faith mix in *some* American Christian circles.

If you have any questions about Islam or want to chat to s Muslim regarding faith please don't hesitate. We care deeply for Christians and feel a closer connection to them than secularists.

Her response in part:

Howse, by many reports that circulate behind the scenes from former colleagues, is an angry, opportunistic and punitive person behind the scenes even to Christians, as you can see from his behavior the past few weeks. And as far as his broadcasting/speaking approach he seems to be wanting to emulate Alex Jones.

Sadly I think the ‘narrow spectrum’ to which you refer is a bit wider than I used to think. I am pretty sure I would have been in that spectrum not too long ago.

I grew up with the nationalism and faith mix myself, and only when I started using some good Christian home school materials did I start realizing that the American system wasn’t really “Christian” but “human enlightenment.”

Is Brannon Howse Sponsoring a Liar in Usama Dakdok?

A Passionate Muslim Response to Brannon Howse Defending James White - Exposing Robert Spencer and Usama Dakdok

Tovia Singer: Does the New Testament Teach Jesus is God?

Why Islam

Wednesday, 19 July 2017

The Mihna

The Mihna was an attempt by the Abbasid Caliph al-Mamun to impose his own theological views on his subjects. This is what comes closest to the Spanish Inquisition in Islamic history. Mihna means ‘testing or ‘trial’. He wanted people to believe the Quran was created. The Mihna continued after al-Mamun’s death under his successors al Mustasim (r. 833-42) and al-Wathiq (r. 842-7), and was finally ended in 861 (refer to pages 97-99 in Mecca The Sacred City, Ziauddin Sardar, Bloomsbury, 2015 )

Learn about Islam


Tuesday, 18 July 2017

A Passionate Muslim Response to Brannon Howse Defending James White - Exposing Robert Spencer and Usama Dakdok

Dear Brannon Howse

I will get into passionately defending Dr James White in a few moments but first I need to address you and your inconsistencies directly sir.

Sir, I agree there are Christians looking to build empires and are using their faith to make a few dollars and feed their egos. You, Mr Brannon Howse, are associated with two very such Christians.

Anybody, who has the ability to google ” Usama Dakdok” will know there is something very fishy about this “evangelist”. Some of the clouds hanging over this shady character are listed in the Usama Dakdok section. You have also appealed to what you deem to be "Christian behaviour" (i.e. respectful behaviour) to rebuke folks in a “secret Facebook group” mocking and attacking you, Shahram Hadian and Dakdok. It seems ironic, considering the man you roll with has a reputation for wild-eyed comments, malicious slander, dishonesty and mockery. In case I’ve lost you, I’m referring to your friend Usama Dakdok.

You are promoting liberalism indirectly too and Catholicism. You are also rolling with somebody who has seemingly railed against conservative Christian attitudes towards homosexuality. Step forward, Mr Robert Spencer. A younger version of you, the Christian activist Theodore Shoebat (son of the well known hardline Christian Walid Shoebat), has this to say about your liberal, anti-Bible and pro-homosexual (?) Catholic friend:

Spencer describes the author and the book as such: “Bruce Bawer is to be commended for his honesty and courage in writing this superb novel.” Robert Spencer expresses his own anti-Christian hatred in this line of his perverted article:

“Bawer is the author of the 1997 book Stealing Jesus: How Fundamentalism Betrays Christianity — an eloquent, impassioned rebuke to the judgmental fundamentalism in which, Bawer contended, all too many Christians place adherence to dogma, in particular that of the sinfulness of homosexual activity, above the demands of Christian charity.”

An anti-Christian book is described by Spencer, a supposed Catholic, as “an eloquent, impassioned rebuke” to “judgmental fundamentalism”. A Christian would never describe a sodomite book with such words.

You probably don’t know that Robert Spencer is on record saying Islam leads to Muslims leading fine, moral and upright lives. That is in complete odds with the fundamentalist Christians (those who hang with you?) who say Islam is from the devil – how is the devil leading people to live “fine, moral and upright lives”? You may want to take this up with Spencer.

You see, you railed against Dr James White but, if you’re consistent, you will be ranting about Usama  Dakdok, the Catholic who promotes liberalism (Robert Spencer) and, wait for it, somebody called Brannon Howse for associating with and promoting the two aforementioned gentlemen!

Sir, you have egg on your face. You may want to try to keep this off Worldview Weekend and hope this is not seen by your financial backers. If you are sincere, you will accept the points being made and recognise your inconsistencies. If you are willing to discuss this and debate what Dr White did as well as Christian doctrines I am willing to come on your show and defend Dr James White against Spencer and/or Dakdok as well as yourself. I understand minister James will not come on your show, I am willing to come on your show. Not for an interfaith dialogue! I am looking to come on the show to hold to account Usama Dakdok, defend brother White and imam Yasir, rebuke you as well as discuss the Bible and Christian doctrines. You see, I’m confident that I can show you difficulties with Christian beliefs (e.g. the Trinity, Hypostatic Union, Blood Atonement, Biblical inerrancy, etc.) and problems with the Bible (both internal and external issues).

The question here is, are you willing to hear what a Muslim has to say? We have put our lives in danger being salt and light for Christians in efforts to reach lost people. We’ve had death threats from people linked to a fundamentalist Christian group; we are not intimated by fundamentalists who are trying to prevent us from peacefully and lovingly reaching the lost. We are peace loving Muslims who want to reach out to your community. You may have watched one or two of brother White’s debates, he struggles in debates to defend ideas such as the Trinity, deity of Jesus and trustworthiness of the Bible. Perhaps that is why you are eagerly trying to close down dialogue. Truth outweighs church traditions. Seek the truth and the truth shall set you free.

Passionate defence of Minister White

Brannon Howse, you have attacked minister James White via straw-men arguments and misinformation. Sir, if you truly believe you have the Holy Spirit in you then surely you are a walking refutation to the belief the Holy Spirit dwells within Christians and guides them in scripture and daily life. Allow me to go into detail:

1. You’ve misrepresented brother White by misrepresenting his event with Dr Yasir Qadhi as an interfaith dialogue, it was not an interfaith dialogue about compromise and syncretism. It was a learning and teaching opportunity. Both respective audiences (Muslims at the mosque and Christians at the church) had an opportunity to learn about what the other respective faith teaches. It would be akin to a Christian going on to YouTube and listening to a lecture by somebody of another faith explaining what they believe. I, being involved in preaching the historical Jesus to Christians, regularly go to the best teachers Christianity has to offer in order to learn about aspects of their faith. I just finished reading some material written by the former archbishop of the Church of England the other day (Prof. Rowan Williams - I hope to use some of it to minister to Christians). I’ve learnt about the Trinity doctrine from folks like RC Sproul and Wayne Grudem – Christianity’s biggest names. I am in a church in the UK listening and learning as well as looking for opportunities to plant seeds. I've attended church organised gatherings where I have I moved people to acknowledge Jesus is not God and the Trinity is not biblical.

I do it because I love Christians. I want Christians to move away from, what rabbi Tovia Singer would call “idolatry”, the Trinity doctrine – a 4th century doctrine which Paul of Tarsus had no knowledge of. For me to do this, I must be familiar with what your religion and what your scholars actually teach. I encourage folks like James White and yourself to learn about Islam from Muslim scholars, that way you will see just how empty, shallow and fallacious the evangelical propaganda about Islam truly is - James White can attest to this as he has seen the type of wild-eyed rhetoric from folks like Robert Morey, Sam Shamoun, David Wood, Usama Dakdok Jay Smith and other low-level thinkers in the evangelical camp via-a-vis Islam. Search this site and you'll find a number of refutations of such low level polemics. Needless to say, James is increasingly avoiding such low-level polemics (although he is still using some arguments which are low level - I have his book and may do a book review).

2. You have made a big deal of half of this event taking place in a church (the other half taking place in a mosque). Minister White has explained it was a ticketed event and it was not a Sunday service.

3. Much has been made of James’ “kindred spirit” comment. Obviously he did not mean he and imam Qadhi shared the same theology and religion – he meant that both share conservative views on different religious sides who have both been involved in championing their respective orthodoxy and conservatism against a growing tide of liberalism in America (the type of liberalism you were indirectly promoting by having Robert Spencer!)

4. The biblical argument that minister White has gone against the Bible because he was “unequally yoked” with imam Qadhi is a disingenuous argument. This is not about marriage. Ironically, Sam Shamoun,  a friend of Dakdok's making money out of the Christian Islamophobia industry and a chief amongst those attacking brother James, also exegetes the verse as a reference to marrying and really close friendship to non Christians. One of Shamoun's friends, Jonathan McLartchie, regularly invites non Christians (atheists, Muslims, Mormons etc.) to present their beliefs to Christians in an apologetics academy.

6. Lastly concerning James' point about ISIS , smart Christians may have realised what James White was saying about the Islamic texts being inconsistent and thus Christians unable to make a definitive proclamation on whether Islam teaches ISIS teachings or not can be used against the Bible with regards to the Trinity idea and Christian soteriology. If James is consistent in believing the interpretation of a small fringe group being at odds with mainstream traditional Islamic beliefs makes the texts inconsistent then he will have tough questions to answer concerning modalism and Arminianism - leading to him denounce the Bible as inconsistent (that's if he is consistent) as he won't be able to appeal to taking scripture as a whole as modalists and Arminians have texts supporting their conclusions. Of course, as Muslims we would say ISIS decontextualising texts and not factoring into account the whole of the Islamic tradition. An example of this would be, terrorism, something which is not allowed according to Sharia yet ISIS carry out terrorist acts.

Responses to and posts about James White

Christian lady emails me about Brannon Howse!

Is Brannon Howse promoting liberals?

Yasir Qadhi Rebukes Robert Spencer and other Right Wing Bigots Attacking the Minister White-Dr Qadhi Dialogue

James White Warns Churches Against Using Sam Shamoun

How Folks Like Robert Spencer Poison White Evangelical Minds

For Christians who say Allah is a Deceiver- a Message from James White

Contradiction: Robert Spencer Runs Away From Muslim Debater Yusuf Ismail
Brief Chat on Andy Bannister's Approach to Evangelism Re Jonathan McLatichie's Facebook

1 John 2:22 Manuscript Discussion

Is Christian Persecution Complex Harming Muslim-Christian Dialogue?

Do Jay Smith's Pfander Centre for Apologetics Really Preach Trinitarian Views on Jesus?

Does Jesus use Violence and Force According to Trinitarian Christianity?

Synoptic Gospels and the Idea of a Pre-Existent Jesus?

Robert Spencer Shocks Evangelical Christians: "Islam Promotes Good Morality"

Islamophobic Evangelical Christians are flocking to Robert Spencer to attack Muslims and Islam for purposes of "political Christianity" but little do these people know Robert Spencer believes Islam promotes good morality and it helps Muslims live good and moral lives. I guess Robert Spencer will not be repeating what he said here too loudly in front of the evangelical pay-masters who want him to serve "political Christianity". Too late Robert, it's out in the open.

This video is also posted here and here

Barack Obama is a Christian and Jesus is a Muslim

Age of Consent for Jews and Christians?

Foolish Christian Argument 'that Quran Teaches Earth is Flat' Back-fires

Muslim Imam Response to Paris Terrorist Attacks

Similarities Between Catholic Terrorist Group IRA and Muslim Terrorist Group ISIS

Explanation: Zaynab Bint Jahsh's Marriage to Prophet Muhammad p Dr Yasir Qadhi

Dhul Qarnayn and the Exegetes' Speculation of Alexander The Great

Murder Rates in Muslim Countries Compared to Non Muslim Countries.

The Hitler Propaganda on Muslims

Sharia Law against terrorism

Christians having dreams and converting to Islam

Learn about Islam:

Wednesday, 12 July 2017

Do Scottish People See Jesus as a Relevant Role Model for Today?

Scottish people are giving up on Christianity. One researcher suggested  if the Church of Scotland became more liberal then it may attract more younger and liberal-minded people:
The Scottish Attitudes Survey, compiled by the independent research body ScotCen, found 58% of respondents said they had no religion at all.

When the survey was carried out in 1999, the figure was 40%.

Among major denominations, the Church of Scotland has seen the sharpest decline, with just 18% saying the belong to the Kirk.

The Church of Scotland figure for 1999 was 35%.

ScotCen researcher Ian Montagu said: "The decline in religious identity in Scotland has been most keenly felt by the Kirk as fewer and fewer people choose to describe themselves as Church of Scotland by default.

"As each generation coming through is consistently less religious than the last, it is hard to imagine this trend coming to a halt in the near future."

He added: "However, if the Kirk is able to push through liberalising measures such as allowing ministers to oversee same-sex marriage ceremonies, it is possible that its appeal may broaden somewhat to younger, more socially liberal Scots."

The Reverend Norman Smith, the convener of the Church of Scotland's Mission and Discipleship Council, said: "This survey contains no surprises for us a Church, however for us it is only part of the story

Tuesday, 11 July 2017

Ehteshaam Gulam on Quran Chapter 9 and Critics of Islam

Also uploaded here

Ehteshaam writes:
For the Historical Context of the Quran 9 see Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Tafsir Ibn Abbas, Tafsir Al-Qurtubi, etc. Also see The Sealed Nectar pages 453-510 regarding the historical context of the Quran 9. Basically this chapter of the Quran was revealed when the Prophet Muhammad and the early Muslims were under attack by the Pagans of Arabia, the Romans, the hypocrites, etc.

The Quran says you can live peacefully with non Believers or Non Muslims in Quran 60:8 and Quran 109. There is no evidence that these verses were abberrated. The Prophet Muhammad never said these vereses were abberrated neither did Ibn Kathir, etc. In fact Muslim scholars don't know which verses abberate other verses, so its incorrect to say the peaceful verses are cancelled out in favor of Quran 9.

Umar Ibn Khattab quoted Quran 2:256 after the Prophet Muhammad's death in Al-Kanz Volume 5 Page 50. The Prophet Muhammad said follow Umar Ibn Khattab in Tirmidhi Volume 6, Page 348, Hadith
#3662. So the Quran 2:256 is not aberrated.

How Folks Like Robert Spencer Poison White Evangelical Minds

Yasir Qadhi Rebukes Robert Spencer and other Right Wing Bigots Attacking the Minister White-Dr Qadhi Dialogue

Contradiction: Robert Spencer Runs Away From Muslim Debater Yusuf Ismail

Hashim Corrects Lizzie Schofield of Pfander Films Website

Muslims are the brothers/sisters of Jesus. It's a good thing a brother of Jesus was at hand to correct a falsehood by Elizabeth Lizzie Schofield of Jay Smith's Pfander Films. Lizzie claimed Allah does not care about sin. A sharp response from Hashim was enough to correct Lizzie.

Video also uploaded here and here

Lizzie Schofield claims 1 Samuel 15:3 was about punishment for sin. OK, so she, as a Trinitarian (last time I checked she was following the later church doctrine of the Trinity)  believes Jesus ordered the killing of women and children because of sin but at the same time she will promote slogans such as "Jesus loves you", "Jesus does not kill anyone", "Jesus is a role model for you", Jesus is the Prince of Peace" etc..

Of course this passage is difficult for Westernised Trinitarian Christians as it does conflict with the marketing/evangelical slogans of the church about Jesus.

1 Samuel 15

And Samuel said to Saul, “The Lord sent me to anoint you king over his people Israel; now therefore listen to the words of the Lord. 2 Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. 3 Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction[a] all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”
4 So Saul summoned the people and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand men on foot, and ten thousand men of Judah. 5 And Saul came to the city of Amalek and lay in wait in the valley. 6 Then Saul said to the Kenites, “Go, depart; go down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them. For you showed kindness to all the people of Israel when they came up out of Egypt.” So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites. 7 And Saul defeated the Amalekites from Havilah as far as Shur, which is east of Egypt. 8 And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive and devoted to destruction all the people with the edge of the sword. 9 But Saul and the people spared Agag and the best of the sheep and of the oxen and of the fattened calves[
b] and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them. All that was despised and worthless they devoted to destruction.

10 The word of the Lord came to Samuel: 11 “I regret[
c] that I have made Saul king, for he has turned back from following me and has not performed my commandments.” And Samuel was angry, and he cried to the Lord all night. 12 And Samuel rose early to meet Saul in the morning. And it was told Samuel, “Saul came to Carmel, and behold, he set up a monument for himself and turned and passed on and went down to Gilgal.” 13 And Samuel came to Saul, and Saul said to him, “Blessed be you to the Lord. I have performed the commandment of the Lord.”14 And Samuel said, “What then is this bleating of the sheep in my ears and the lowing of the oxen that I hear?” 15 Saul said, “They have brought them from the Amalekites, for the people spared the best of the sheep and of the oxen to sacrifice to the Lord your God, and the rest we have devoted to destruction.”16 Then Samuel said to Saul, “Stop! I will tell you what the Lordsaid to me this night.” And he said to him, “Speak.”

17 And Samuel said, “Though you are little in your own eyes, are you not the head of the tribes of Israel? The Lord anointed you king over Israel. 18 And the Lord sent you on a mission and said, ‘Go, devote to destruction the sinners, the Amalekites, and fight against them until they are consumed.’ 19 Why then did you not obey the voice of the Lord? Why did you pounce on the spoil and do what was evil in the sight of the Lord?” 20 And Saul said to Samuel, “I have obeyed the voice of the Lord. I have gone on the mission on which the Lord sent me. I have brought Agag the king of Amalek, and I have devoted the Amalekites to destruction. 21 But the people took of the spoil, sheep and oxen, the best of the things devoted to destruction, to sacrifice to the Lord your God in Gilgal.” 22 And Samuel said,

“Has the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices,
as in obeying the voice of the Lord?
Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice,
and to listen than the fat of rams.
23 For rebellion is as the sin of divination,
and presumption is as iniquity and idolatry.
Because you have rejected the word of the Lord,
he has also rejected you from being king.”

24 Saul said to Samuel, “I have sinned, for I have transgressed the commandment of the Lord and your words, because I feared the people and obeyed their voice. 25 Now therefore, please pardon my sin and return with me that I may bow before the Lord.” 26 And Samuel said to Saul, “I will not return with you. For you have rejected the word of the Lord, and the Lord has rejected you from being king over Israel.” 27 As Samuel turned to go away, Saul seized the skirt of his robe, and it tore. 28 And Samuel said to him, “The Lord has torn the kingdom of Israel from you this day and has given it to a neighbor of yours, who is better than you. 29 And also the Glory of Israel will not lie or have regret, for he is not a man, that he should have regret.” 30 Then he said, “I have sinned; yet honor me now before the elders of my people and before Israel, and return with me, that I may bow before the Lord your God.” 31 So Samuel turned back after Saul, and Saul bowed before the Lord.

32 Then Samuel said, “Bring here to me Agag the king of the Amalekites.” And Agag came to him cheerfully.[
d] Agag said, “Surely the bitterness of death is past.” 33 And Samuel said, “As your sword has made women childless, so shall your mother be childless among women.” And Samuel hacked Agag to pieces before the Lord in Gilgal.

34 Then Samuel went to Ramah, and Saul went up to his house in Gibeah of Saul. 35 And Samuel did not see Saul again until the day of his death, but Samuel grieved over Saul. And the Lordregretted that he had made Saul king over Israel.

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Banning Ladders at Speakers Corner and Other Safety Restrictions

Some Christians recently harassed Joseph Cohen's Israel Advocacy group two weeks running at Speakers Corner, Hyde Park, London. There have been sparks of violence and threats over the years and I've listed some below in a letter which I sent to Inspector Harris a while ago amidst the furore over the ladder ban speculation. Clearly there needs to be increased safety measures and restrictions at Speakers Corner. Banning people who have been involved in violence or incitement to hatred would be a positive step.

A man who intimidated Joseph Cohen

Inspector Harris
The Old Police House
Hyde Park, London
W2 2UH

Dear Inspector Harris

As a member of the [Censored], I want to applaud you and thank you for your decision to ban ladders at Speakers Corner, Hyde Park. I genuinely believe this decision will help calm the atmosphere down there and discourage hate-preachers (including amongst others; Homophobic, Muslim, Racial Nationalist and Islamophobic Christian hate preachers).

There is an internet campaign started by one of the “extreme” Christians called Jay Smith asking people to write to you so the ladders get reinstated at the park. I personally think he’s acting out of self-interest rather than thinking about crowd safety and community cohesion.

I have seen an antagonistic speaker pushed off a ladder and I’ve also heard a speaker who uses a ladder (a gentleman called Christopher) threaten to chop a Muslim’s head off in the Farsi language. This was captured on video and you can view it here:

There’s also a few other antagonistic people whom I believe fit in to Theresa May’s parliamentary comments yesterday (yes, my life is sad enough to watch PMQs) concerning Islamophobia. For instance, there’s a man who is called Dr Jay Smith by his colleagues (an old, short and stocky American man who looks like Colonel Sanders). This man uses the ladder regularly. He incites hatred of minorities (namely Muslims) by pointing at Muslims from his ladder and telling them they are meant to kill him as well as stuff like he “expects” to be killed by Muslims one day. All antagonistic and unsavoury stuff from the ladder:

One of Jay Smith’s female colleagues tells Muslims Jesus will come back with a sword and kill Muslims because Muslims are the enemies of Jesus:

Sadly there are groups who are taking advantage of the recent terrorist attacks in Manchester and at London Bridge (an attack which could have seen me as a victim as I passed over the bridge a matter of minutes before the terrorist “people” attacked the pedestrians!) for purposes of Islamophobia – Jay Smith has a channel on YouTube featuring his ladder hate speeches which incite people to make racist comments about Muslims as well as provoking hate-comments in wanting to kick Muslims out of Europe:

I’ve even heard his colleagues talk about Muslim men as thinking like rapists and being unable to control lusts etc..

Sadly these people are taking advantage of the spirit of Speakers Corner. Freedom of expression is not freedom to incite hatred. There are Muslims and Pan-Africanists involving themselves in illegal comments and activities too. For instance, a Muslim pushed somebody off a ladder and at least one Pan Africanist is making racially charged comments about Black people being superior to White and Arab people whilst also denigrating White people as inherently violent.

I hope you can take this letter into consideration amidst the letters favouring the contrary position which have been sent to you through organised lobbying efforts by one anti-Muslim Christian group headed by an American Christian fundamentalist.

I would also like to take this opportunity to personally thank the police force for their great efforts in keeping Britain safe. I know it’s a difficult job and you may feel, at times, your efforts go unnoticed but rest assured the British public holds the police force in high esteem. The best police force in the world, by far! You have my respect.

And once again, thanks for having the foresight to ban ladders at Speakers Corner.

Yours Sincerely

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